The problem with God.

We live on an infinitesimal speck in the universe which is teeming with millions of life forms. At some time, somehow this life must have started.

Creationists regularly discount the idea that this life could have happened by chance chemical reaction and calculate that the chance of that happening would be beyond astronomical. They often quote the likes of Fred Hoyle (the tornado in a junkyard guy):

As stated by Drs. Hoyle and Wickramasinghe, “the trouble is that there are about two thousand enzymes, and the chance of obtaining them all in a random trial is only one part in (10 20) 2000 = 10 40,000, which is an outrageously small probability that could not be faced even if the whole universe consisted of organic soup.“

If these huge numbers are true then there must be another way of starting life on earth and that starter is always a god, on these threads always the God of the Bible, sometimes disguised as the Designer.

Now it can be easily shown that these astronomical figures are based on false presumptions but leave that for the time and consider how it would apply to a creator, let’s call it God. This God had to come about in some way and as the chance of it coming about by accident must be at least as improbable as that, according to creationists, of abiogenesis, then this God must have had a creator.

We then have a problem here because if we apply this reasoning there will be a line of gods going back into unimaginable time. The only answer I have ever seen to this problem is that god exists outside time and space, which, so far as I can see, means nothing.

So here are the questions:

Is abiogenesis impossible, based on the type of calculation by Dr Hoyle?

If these calculations are correct, then they must also apply to the creator of life on earth:

How did this creator God come about?

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