Though Kirshner affirms that pleading the fifth amendment cannot be used against a defendant in a criminal case, he predicts that it will be used in civil fraud cases that Trump will face, as evidence that the businessman was aware of the illegality of practices his businesses allegedly used to gain benefits he was not entitled to.
“It will crush him in the civil case. He’s gonna be a pauper by then anyway,” Kirshner predicts, adding, “The Trump Organization, I believe, will go belly-up.”
In the full episode, he also addresses the “roadmap” he believes is already laid out for prosecutors to follow in order to hold Trump responsible for the January 6th attack.
The full audio is available here.